Wednesday, April 2, 2008

A CALIFORNIA BUTT-KICKING


Quixtar continues to get pounded in courts across America. The latest fissure was opened by a decision handed down on March 31st in United States District Court for the Northern District of California. The decision, rendered by Senior Judge Samuel Conti, found Quixtar's arbitration process to be "procedurally and substantively unconscionable, and therefore unenforceable."

Judge Conti's written opinion was very comprehensive and quite impressive. Judge Conti meticulously detailed why each and every part of Quixtar's arbitration and dispute resolution process is inherently flawed and unfair.

The motion ruled on by Judge Conti was the result of a suit brought by former IBO Jeff Pokorny. Pokorny and others alleged the Quixtar is an illegal pyramid scheme. It appears that the California suit filed by the TEAM affiliated IBOs and Pokorny's class action suit are very similar. If you recall Quixtar has yet to refute any of the allegations claimed in the suit filed by Woodward and company. Pokorny's suit also named Bill Britt, Ron Puryear and their related tools organizations. Quixtar, Britt, and Puryear all made motion to have the suit removed from court and into arbitration where they can hide their mischief.

The Court attacked Quixtar's arbitration clause on the basis of how it is procedurally applied. The Court stated:

To determine whether a contract provision is procedurally
unconscionable, the Court looks for oppression or surprise, where oppression "'arises from an inequality of bargaining power that results in no real negotiation and absence of meaningful choice.'"

As most of you know by now the arbitration clause was added to distributor agreements in 1998. Quixtar then added the non-compete and non-solicitation clauses in the same underhand way in 2004. In both of these instances IBOs were not fully disclosed the information nor were they given any ability to opt out or negotiate. Again the unilateral actions of Amway / Quixtar will likely result in the striking down of the Quixtar's non-compete and non-solicitation clauses on the same grounds Judge Conti notes here.

What is interesting is that Quixtar admits that there is no negotiation but instead claims that the IBOAI is the "voice of IBOs." Judge Conti noted that IBOs have the option to join the IBOAI or not but that those that do join aren't allowed to vote until reaching the level of "Platinum." Quixtar did not present any evidence to suggest that the IBOAI did represent the best interests of IBOs. As we know the IBOAI failed miserably to represent IBOs. Outside of the 15 martyrs led by Woodward, the rest of the IBOAI laid down with the company over pricing issues as well as the dreaded name change to the notorious AMWAY. Judge Conti also noted that in Pokorny's case he was not only suing Quixtar but those in his upline and that believing the IBOAI would act in his interest was described as:
In such a scenario, allowing the most senior IBOs to "negotiate" the rights of all other IBOs would be leaving the proverbial fox in charge of the henhouse.
Pokorny's attorneys raised the following issues with Quixtar's arbitration process and all of the steps required leading to arbitration:

Plaintiffs, however, advance a number of problems with the
Conciliation stages of the Quixtar process, and argue that the
agreement is not enforceable. The specific defects Plaintiffs
allege are:

1. The Hearing Panel must make recommendations that promote
the RoC being challenged here.

2. The Conciliation requirement is not mutual. IBOs must
bring claims against Quixtar using the Quixtar ADR
process, but Quixtar is not required to do so.

3. The Conciliation process is not neutral because the
IBOAI board is dominated by the "Kingpin" IBOs that
Plaintiffs allege are part of the same unlawful
enterprise as Quixtar.

4. At most, the Hearing Panel or IBOAI board can make a
recommendation, which Quixtar may accept, reject, or
modify at its discretion.
5. Quixtar may unilaterally modify the RoC.

6. The procedure is burdensome, time-consuming, and
designed to encourage compliance with the very rules
Plaintiffs are challenging here.

7. IBOs must initiate all arbitration proceedings within 2
years, even if the applicable statute of limitations is
longer.
Judge Conti covers in great detail the short comings of the pre-arbitration procedures IBOs are forced to endure. Judge Conti sums it up as follows:
The Court finds, without reaching every possible defect
identified by Plaintiffs, that the RoC requirement that an IBO
engage in Informal and Formal Conciliation prior to arbitration is
substantively unconscionable, and exceedingly so. The ADR deck
could not possibly be stacked more in Quixtar's favor than it is
here. Having already concluded that the agreement is procedurally
unconscionable because the Plaintiffs did not have a chance to
negotiate its terms, the Court holds that the pre-arbitration
provisions of the agreement are unconscionable, and declines to
enforce them.
Quite frankly there is just too much quotable information to note in one post. I strongly urge you to read the attached opinion from Judge Conti. In item after item addressed by the judge, Quixtar and its processes and actions, all were found to be blatantly unfair. Even the issue of severability, where the judge can strip away parts that are unconscionable and leave the clause mostly intact, Quixtar failed to convince. In fact Judge Conti found the entire process so afoul of due process that he noted:
The Quixtar arbitration agreement is simply too tainted to be
saved through minor adjustments. Therefore, though mindful of the
strong state and federal policies favoring arbitration, the Court
holds that the entire Quixtar ADR scheme is unconscionable and
unenforceable.
In the end Judge Conti denied the motions of the defendants Quixtar, Britt, and Puryear. Judge filed his conclusion as follows.

For the foregoing reasons, the Court finds that the
arbitration agreement contained in the Registration, the BSMAA,
and the DM Terms and Conditions, and incorporating the RoC, is
procedurally and substantively unconscionable, and therefore
unenforceable. The Court therefore ORDERS as follows:

1. Quixtar's Motion to Dismiss or Stay and Compel
Compliance With Dispute Resolution Agreement is DENIED.

2. The Britt Defendants' Motion to Dismiss and Compel
Compliance With Dispute Resolution Agreement is DENIED.

3. The Puryear Defendants' Motion in Support of Joinder in
Quixtar's and Britt's Motion to Dismiss or Stay
Litigation and Compel Compliance With Dispute Resolution
Agreement is DENIED.

4. Plaintiffs' Motion to Strike Quixtar's Reply Re:
Statement of Recent Decision is VACATED AS MOOT.

IT IS SO ORDERED.
THE ENTIRE OPINION CAN BE READ HERE.

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

It seams that in the last few weeks Quixtar has been losing cases that amount to the Japanese losing battles in Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Judge Conti just dropped the Hiroshima Atomic Bomb. Hopefully (though doubtful) Quixtar can see the writing on the wall and surrender before the Nagasaki Bomb Drop (Georgia). No matter what, looks like they're about done.

Anonymous said...

One more step closer to all Quixtar IBOs being free. I know several that would love to be free to start another truly free successful business. Hopefully 2008 will be the year of IBO freedom in all network marketing companies.

Anonymous said...

Now will Judge Conti hear the case that Quixtar is operating as an illegal pyramid? If I'm reading the case right the orginal case brought by Jeff Pokony was in fact that Q is an illegal pyramid?

Matt said...

Woo-hoo!!! You gotta love it when a judge sees through the smoke and mirrors (and the filth and slime on those mirrors) to the real heart of the issue.

Anonymous said...

Does IBO Rebellion know what media outlets we can contact? This court decision is a great news story.

Anonymous said...

Uh oh....Jody and his boys "Rocket" and "Tex" will not be liking this news.

Anonymous said...

Dear IBO Rebellion,

Great Post! Thanks for breaking it down and getting the word out. Nothing like GREAT NEWS to start the day!!

Anonymous said...

How will "Corporate Communications" spin this one?

Q-less said...

Quixtar"s arbitration process defeated in Federal court in Northern California. It seems the crack in the wall of Amway's oppressive rules of conduct is ever widening as the truth becomes more apparent in courts of law. It makes me wonder if perhaps when the crack in that wall gets wide enough will 31,000+ people be filing a class action suit seeking damages for loss of income due to illusory non compete, pain and suffering and such. I'm no lawyer and am not necessarily advocating that, But I do wonder if it's possible.

Anonymous said...

QWNED!!!

(pwnage by a whole letter more)

Anonymous said...

This is great news! Q*'s wall is crumbling. And beginning to fall hard!

My prayers go out to the IBOs who still believe in this manipulative giant.

april said...

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steve said...

As these losses begin to mount and more and more nails are put into the coffin, I wonder if Orrin, Chris, Billy et all will offer grace...

I think that an offer of truce and a withdrawl of all attacks on both sides, combined with dropping of all legal battles and the noncompete may be in the best interests everyone. Devos and Van Andel could fire their lack of Leadership Team running Q, Accept Dallin Larsen's challenge to drop the non-compete and finally pay all the money innocent IBO's have paid out in Legal fees. Quixtar could actually come out smelling like a rose.

We could enter into a non-disparging agreement and do away with all the blogs. Every IBO would then be able to focus their time and energy into building our dream business no matter what company it was with.

Maybe I am all wet, but my Christian faith says that grace is appropriate... (My carnal nature says Destoy the sorry BLEEEEP's) In the end it is probably moot because I highly doubt that anyone on the Q/A side would accept such a proposal. A good friend reminded me that Amway is no longer being run by wise businessmen but on the contrary, by men who are trained to litigate. These same men are trained to look out for number one only. I don't believe that Win/Win is a concept they comprehend.

Just a thought...

Steve in Texas

Anonymous said...

If only it were that simple Steve! If cooler heads and honest hearts could prevail, I believe you would be right on the money. Common sense would tell anyone that their is no victory in this for Amway. The longer this lasts and the more dillusional they act, only further cements their fall into oblivion. Cut your losses and move on, we don't need to disparage you. You have done a wonderful job on your own!

The IBO Rebellion said...

Steve in Texas,

I appreciate your heart and Christian attitude. The old saying, "Don't make a deal with the Devil," would certainly apply to AAQ. They have chosen their path to destruction, it would only be proper to let them reap the seeds they have sewn.

Entering into any agreement with AAQ would be foolish in my opinion. They have been proven to have no honor, no integrity. It would be yet another agreement that we would follow and that they would mock. They owe all of us more than leaving us alone and refunding legal costs... they owe all of us for the money they have deprived our families of. As Q-Less suggested earlier... we should all seek money damages to be made whole.

An example of AAQ's complete failure to address fundamental unfairness is highlighted in Judge Conti's opinion. In regards to the selection of arbiters Judge Conti points to a recent change in AAQ policy which occurred after the Nitro case. Even this change fell short of fixing the unfairness in their process. It is overwhelmingly clear that AAQ is incapable of fixing themselves. This leaves the fixing to lawsuits, legislatures, and regulators. AAQ is a pathetic mess that needs to fall under the weight of their own stupidity and arrogance.

The IBOAI also should find the same fate. The puppet regime of the good ole boy network has failed to live up to their fiduciary duties. The failure of the IBOAI to represent IBOs in the field properly puts them in legal peril as well. The IBOAI is so bad that even having someone as fine as Orrin Woodward on board attempting to overcome the cesspool and incestuous nature of the board proved futile. In plain terms, if you drop a fillet mignon in a bucket of dung you still have a bucket of dung. The shame those so called leaders should feel must be crippling. Then again in the culture of back room deals they exist in they likely find it all just another day at the office.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the rebellion. Unfortunately, Q has proven to be untrustworthy in any agreements. Orrin & Billy offered a truce from day 1. The CA lawsuit was only for bargaining clout. Billy repeatedly asked Q to come back to the table and negotiate.

The only way for everyone to truely be free now is for official prosecution from a crimminal standpoint. I also am in favor of supporting a class action lawsuit against Q for loss of income, harrassment and another class action lawsuit against the IBOIA for breach of fiduciary duty.

Anonymous said...

No word from "Corporate Communications". Jody, Tex and Rocket. Could they be running for the border to avoid "being served"?

rocket said...

Rocket is banned from this blog. I see I can still post, but IBO Rebellion did want me banned.

If you want to get into a discussion, follow my link.

Anonymous said...

Rocket you have been banned from this blog, please stop posting. By continuing to post you are showing Amway like integrity. Please stop stop bothering the rebellion. He has a very important job to do.. toppling a billion dollar corporation is hard work... please be gone. The rebellion has no time to deal with basement bloggers.

MA MEATLOAF!

Anonymous said...

I, for one, am glad to see that the courts are finally hearing it...we knew they'd see the truth once we could get our day in court. The wall begins to crumble.

Grace is important, and we should all offer that in our hearts, but it is only appropriate that there also be restitution for those thousands who have suffered over this deception. No action on their part can replace the humility we feel for having stood solidly for this enterprise for more than a dozen years...I never would have thought we could be that gullible! But, at the very least, I'd like to see legal expenses, lost income, and withheld bonuses repaid to all those that have endured personal financial loss from this multi-billion dollar corporate player.

Scott Larsen said...

The silence on the Amway blog about the huge defeat in California is deafening. After Morrison they were hooting and howlering that they would get the decision reversed.....never happened.

Anonymous said...

You ever notice that when AAQ gets their butts handed to them in the courts, it takes them like a month to post or update any comments on their blogs, Geeeee I wonder why? I wonder if all that time is used think of a "spin" response. One of my favorits now(hind sight 20/20) has to be their post on the Nitro case and how it has no beiring on the cases to date. HA!

Anonymous said...

I am a strong God-fearing Christian, but I do feel several lawsuits are in order to hold Quixtar and Amway accountable for the direct financial loses and for the harassment and stress they have caused so many good innocent people.
But I hope the civil lawsuits are filed quickly before all the money is gone from potential criminal penalties.

No more Q said...

The good Lord taught us that we must have grace, that we must forgive our brothers. No matter how hard it seems we must remove the anger from our hearts and lay our offerings at the alter. At the sermon on the mount (Matthew 5) He spoke strongly of this. However, he also said we must not be meek and all should be held accountable! I forgive Q and the people involved with Q. I do how expect them to held accountable in our courts!

Anonymous said...

Potential Criminal Penalties is correct. I believe the IBOAI is really hanging out there as well now for not standing up and defending the best interests of the common IBO.

Just watch, someone will want a deal inside the walls at Quixtar/Amway and it will take them all down.

David Robison said...

Do you really believe that Jody, Tex and Rocket are in "cahoots"?

First, Tex and Rocket argue like cats and dogs.

Second, if you mean Jody Victor...Tex and Rocket have no respect for the man.

Rocket is a long time critic of Quixtar and Tex hates the Amway Motivation Systems Tool Scam.

They would be by no stretch of the imagination, allies.

They do agree on "AMO" systems making obscene profits from distributors; but they hardly even agree on the methods to stop it.

Somebody ain't reading somthing right.

Dave

Anonymous said...

We also can agree on that you are with AAQ too. So whats your point? Im sure Mussolini and Hitler weren't best friends either but they seem to have shared the same theme, both with NO clue of what the TRUTH/FREEDOM is, just like your buddies rocket and Tex.

Anonymous said...

I disagree that all of Quixtar or the IBOAI are bad. I feel that most of both are OK. I do feel that a few at Quixtar and the "leaders" of Alicor are wrong, petty, and vindictive. Remember is was all of the IBOAI board that voted against the corporation. After 1/3 were tossed or quit, they had to decide to stay and protect their downline, or leave as well. That was no an easy choice, just look at Fred Hartis, who has wavered a few times since. He had problems with the corporation, the question was to see if he could fix it from the inside or not.
Utah

David Robison said...

I'll admit that I just started reading IBO Rebellion after I read an exchange between this site's author and Rocket.

It's my understanding IBO Rebellion is/was a member of a Quixtar motivational organization/LOA that has left Quixtar.

IBO Rebellion may feel like there are two fronts to fight just like Hitler and Mussolini.

But, both Tex and Rocket are critics of LOAs that IBO Rebellion belonged to.

ONLY Rocket has problems with Quixtar and Amway.

Rocket and Tex may both be your "enemy"; but they aren't working in an organized effort.

My point is that the LOA that IBO Rebellion belongs to is not perfect, it has critics.

But not all critics are aligned.

It's just a fact that the IBO Rebellion position is open for criticism from several "fronts" and if you put your position on a public blog then it behoove the author to accept the debate that may come on any front.

ben said...

rocket and tex in my opinion are just poor misinformed puppets who have nothing to lose no matter what has happened. I'm quite sure that none of the team has tried to "raid" any of their personal downline and therefore should have nothing to gain by any of their posts, unless they are being paid to post. All team wanted was to be set free to make a living and now we have tex and the like who are pissed off about the whole thing. Instead of focusing on their own business they have attacked a people who are trying their best to make a living without being sued, and we decided to fight back!!!

And with every ounce of sincerity, I hope non-competes are made illegal in this industry!!!

ben said...

Help to save free enterprise and never ever ever join a relationship marketing company that has one!!!

I just got my first order of Mona Vie and it is an awesome product that doesn't even resemble anything that alticor has!!! And even if it did, it wouldn't matter!!

Wal mart has doritos and so does target and guess what? No non-compete their, huh thats odd...

Anonymous said...

Dear IBO Rebellion,

I am so ready for a Behind the Walls at Quixtar Update! This legal decision has to have had quite an impact.

Thanks for all you do!

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Anonymous said...

I believe we need to just forgive them there ignorance..and move on we have a bright future and its time to go to millions...God Bless the TEAM!!!

Outsider said...

I think it's pretty clear that Quixtar is not "free" enterprise.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this hit me in the face today! I must admit, I was ready to take up my sword and cut off their ear too!!
This was my daily devotional reading for today. It is talking about how Peter cut off the ear of the high priest's servant the night Jesus was arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane and in contrast how Jesus Himself reacted:
"The healing of Malchus' ear was the last miracle Jesus performed during His earthly ministry. What a statement this makes to us about Jesus! Just before He goes to the Cross, He reaches out to help a publicly declared and avowed foe! This man was part of a group that had been manacing and antagonistic toward Jesus. But Jesus didn't say, "Finally, one of you guys got what you deserve!" Instead, He reached out to the man in his need, touched him, and supernaturally healed him. What a contrast Jesus' actions were to Peter's behavior! More than likely, Peter acted out of a long-held offense, but Jesus demonstrated love and genuine care even to those who opposed Him during His life and who were instrumental in leading Him to His crucifixion. So don't follow Peter's example; instead, pray for grace to be like Jesus! Decide today to let the Holy Spirit empower you to reach out to your offenders and opponents and to love them the way Jesus would love them!
Just my 2 cents.....Onwards to millions!!!!!!!

Ian from Texas said...

Although Jesus did restore that man's ear, as Jesus hung from the cross, and the one of the thief's that was crucified with him begged, "Remember me" and Jesus did. To be saved in that way, is to me, no less of a miracle.

There is a hearing today in Dallas, Texas. I ask those of you who would, to please say a prayer.
I ask that His will be done.

Thanks,

Ian from Texas

Anonymous said...

Ian,
Please keep us up to date on the purpose of the hearing and the results of the hearing. Every case could have some dramatic impact on other cases going on around the country.

And unfortunately, Amquix never gives the true facts on their blog.

I believe if everyone new the facts of every case, there would be some people behind bars in Michigan very soon.

quixtarisacult said...

I just love it when a whole lot of stinky worms are release from the can for Quix-czar to deal with. Having to face the charges of corruption that have been swept under the rug is great news for straight thinking folk who have known for so many years what kind of pyramid scam AmQuix is.

Ian from Texas said...

I don't know much, and I don't want to speak out of turn. There is a hearing of some sort in Dallas, and I am sure folks that know more than me will provide details of the outcome, whenever a ruling is handed down.
I just know that prayer is a powerful thing, especially when the truth is on your side.

Ian

Outsider said...

Also, when Jesus healed the soldier's ear, he told Peter that if you live by the sword, you will die by it.

Anonymous said...

Dallas update,
delayed again. kicked back to Judge Bush's court out in the open.
another 2-4 week delay.
sigh

Hurting Inside said...

Getting their butts kicked in court and by general commerce or site hits.

Check out the difference in loss of Amway business versus the gain of MonaVie business on my blog!

http://livesturnedupsidedown.blogspot.com/

-Hurting Inside
(The Mr. of the couple)

Anonymous said...

I think it is time for another gathering of your Close Warm Personal Friends.... would really love to hear what is going on inside Quixand

Anonymous said...

http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/
04/ohio_fines_devos_pac_52_millio.html

You need both lines for the link to work.

Anonymous said...

http://ronsimmonsspeaks.blogspot.com/
2008/04/how-about-some-clarity.html

new post from ron.

Worth reading.